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Video: Dmitry Kiselev tau los ua tus neeg saib xyuas rau "zoo" txiv hmab txiv ntoo
2024 Tus sau: Seth Attwood | [email protected]. Kawg hloov kho: 2023-12-16 16:06
Raws li kev tawm tsam ntawm kev tawm tsam "kev tsim txom ntawm cov neeg" nrog cov cawv cawv uas tsis zoo thiab kev qhia ntawm lub teb chaws cov pej xeem mus rau "zoo" txiv hmab txiv ntoo, kev tshaj tawm txog kev haus cawv yog nthuav tawm hauv lub xeev xov xwm. Ib tug ntawm cov thawj coj ntawm All-Lavxias teb sab TV thiab xov tooj cua Broadcasting Company, tus tswv tsev ntawm Vesti Nedeli qhov kev pab cuam, Dmitry Kiselev, yog nyob rau hauv lub taub hau ntawm kev txhawb nqa ntawm "kev coj noj coj ua" kev qaug dej qaug cawv.
Thaum Lub Kaum Hli 26, 2019, nws tau raug xaiv los ua tus thawj coj ntawm Lavxias Union ntawm Winegrowers thiab Winemakers, thiab thaum Lub Kaum Hli 27 ntawm Russia-1 channel, D. Kiselev zaj duab xis "Stop Poaching People. Ib zaj yeeb yaj kiab hais txog cawv."
Cov laj thawj rau cov kev ua li no, uas tuaj yeem dhau los ua lub hauv paus rau kev ua pauj kua zaub ntsuab tiag tiag, tau muab tso rau hauv lub xeev kev tiv thaiv dej cawv lub tswv yim, uas muab kev txhim kho "kev coj noj coj ua" ntawm kev haus cawv thiab kev txhawb nqa rau kev ua yeeb yam hauv tsev.
Nws yog ib qho tsim nyog yuav tsum tawm tsam cov neeg nrhiav kev haus cawv thiab nrhiav kev ua siab ntev hauv lub tebchaws, raws li kev tshaj tawm loj ntawm kev ua neej nyob tsis muaj zog thiab kev txwv tsis pub muaj kev cuam tshuam ntawm kev haus cawv. Raws li cov lus teb rau winemakers 'demarche, peb thov kom thov rau tsoomfwv cov cai nrog kev thov kom tiv thaiv kev tawg ntawm txoj cai ntawm kev ua siab ntev rau zej zog.
Nco qab tias yav dhau los Dmitry Kiselev twb dhau los ua nto moo rau nws cov lus hauv kev txhawb nqa kev cai lij choj ntawm tib-poj niam txiv neej sib yuav thiab concerts ntawm cov neeg ua yeeb yam tsis ncaj ncees. Nws tom ntej no "kev ua tiav", pom tau hais tias, yuav qhib siab rau kev nyiam ntawm cov tuam txhab cawv, tau txais txiaj ntsig los ntawm cov neeg siv khoom.
Cov lus piav qhia ntxaws txog qhov xwm txheej
Thaum Lub Kaum Hli 26, 2019, tus neeg tawm suab tseem ceeb tshiab rau kev txaus siab ntawm cov neeg tsim khoom lag luam hauv zos thiab cov tub lag luam cawv tau tshwm sim hauv Russia. Tus kws sau xov xwm Lavxias paub zoo, tus tswv tsev ntawm Vesti Nedeli qhov kev pab cuam ntawm Russia-1 channel, Tus Lwm Thawj Coj General ntawm All-Lavxias Lub Xeev TV thiab Xov Tooj Cua Xov Tooj Cua - VGTRK, nrog rau Tus Thawj Coj General ntawm Lavxias International Information Agency Rossiya Segodnya, Dmitry Kiselev, tau raug xaiv tsa Thawj Tswj Hwm ntawm Union ntawm Winegrowers thiab Winemakers ntawm Russia, uas nws lub rooj sib tham tau tshwm sim hauv Crimea.
Kiselev tau hloov nyob rau hauv no ncej los ntawm ib tug zoo-paub tus neeg ua lag luam ombudsman, tso cai los ntawm Thawj Tswj Hwm ntawm Russia los tiv thaiv txoj cai ntawm ua lag luam Boris Titov.
Tam sim ntawd tom qab kev xaiv tsa, Kiselev tau tawm tswv yim txog kev cia siab ntawm kev lag luam cawv thiab kev lag luam cawv hauv Russia thiab, tshwj xeeb, hais tias Russia tuaj yeem dhau los ua "lub xeev wine puv ntiaj teb", qhov chaw, yog tias tsis raug tshem tawm, ces. txawm muab Fabkis tawm los. Lawv hais tias peb lub latitudes yog hais txog tib yam thiab peb muaj keeb kwm winemaking kev.
Kiselyov kuj qhia txog kev txhawj xeeb, yog li hais, cov neeg ua haujlwm yws yws tias niaj hnub no feem ntau ntawm cov neeg Lavxias tsis haus cawv "zoo", tab sis pheej yig txiv hmab txiv ntoo thiab txiv hmab txiv ntoo shmurdyak, swill. Txhawm rau txhawb kev tsim cov winemaking hauv tsev, Dmitry Kiselev thov kom tshem tawm cov kev txwv tam sim no los ntawm kev ncig ntawm cov cawv txiv hmab hauv tsev, thiab, tshwj xeeb, txwv kev tshaj tawm hauv xov xwm. Thiab feem ntau, hais tias cov neeg sau xov xwm ua cawv, "cov cawv hauv tsev yuav tsum tau muab los ntawm lub tswv yim ntawm "cov khoom cawv". Peb saib cov cawv tsuas yog cov khoom uas muaj cawv xwb. Nws zoo li kuv tias qhov no yog khoom noj khoom haus, theej. Yog tias peb pom qhov ntawd, ces txhua yam yuav hloov pauv hauv kev tshaj tawm."
Dmitry Kiselev, zoo li nws tus thawj coj ntawm lub koom haum ntawm Lavxias teb sab Winemakers Boris Titov, tsis yog ib tug neeg txawv rau lub lag luam cawv. Rov qab rau hauv lub xyoo ntawm kev sib raug zoo ntawm Russia thiab Ukraine, nyob rau hauv ib ncig ntawm lub ces Ukrainian Koktebel nyob rau hauv Crimea, qhov twg Kiselev muaj nws tus kheej cov cuab yeej cuab tam, nws thiab nws cov neeg koom tes pib qhov kev siv ntawm lub Cock t`est belle wine-ua project, uas tau txhawb nqa txawm Petro Poroshenko nws tus kheej. Niaj hnub no qhov project no tsim txog 4 txhiab fwj cawv ib xyoos. Muaj tseeb, txog tam sim no nws yog qhov kev nyiam ua dua li kev lag luam muaj txiaj ntsig. Tab sis, dab tsi lub ntuj raug txim tsis kidding? Nrog xws li cov ntaub ntawv txhawb nqa, uas yog nyob rau hauv tes ntawm ib tug neeg sau xov xwm-winemaker, kev lag luam yuav zoo nce toj. Yog li hais lus, ib qho nyiaj ntxiv, uas yog, ib lab, yuav tsis ua mob rau tsev neeg Kiselev.
Nws yog tseeb tias cov winemakers twv txoj cai nrog kev xaiv ntawm tus thawj coj tshiab! Tsis zoo li Boris Titov, uas tau nco txog los ntawm cov pej xeem hauv lub tebchaws rau nws qhov kev tshaj tawm tsis meej meej hauv kev xaiv tsa thawj tswj hwm zaum kawg, Dmitry Kiselev yog "shark ntawm tus cwj mem." Yog lawm, nrog cov peev txheej zoo li no: ntau pua tus neeg sau xov xwm, airtime ntawm central channels.
Thiab cov peev txheej no ua haujlwm! Cia li hnub tom qab lub keeb kwm kev nce qib ntawm Kiselev mus rau lub taub hau ntawm domestic winemakers. Lub Kaum Hli 27, nyob rau hauv nruab nrab tsoom fwv teb chaws channel "Russia-1", hnub Sunday yav tsaus ntuj, ntawm 22.40, nyob rau hauv dav dav, nyob rau hauv lub nrov tshaj plaws lub sij hawm, Dmitry Kiselev zaj duab xis "Stop lom neeg. Ib zaj yeeb yaj kiab hais txog cawv."
Tom qab saib cov yeeb yaj kiab no, ntau cov lus nug tshwm sim. Nyob rau theem twg yog qhov kev txiav txim siab los qhia cov yeeb yaj kiab hauv lub sijhawm ntsuas, hnub so, ntawm lub teb chaws lub hauv paus channel ua? Yuav ua li cas npaum li cas qhov kev qhia ntawm cov yeeb yaj kiab saum huab cua ntawm Russia-1 channel sib haum rau cov qauv ntawm txoj cai lij choj thiab kev coj ncaj ncees ntawm cov neeg sau xov xwm, thaum cov yeeb yaj kiab muaj zais kev tshaj tawm rau Cock t'est belle ua lag luam project, uas Mr. Kiselev yog tus koom nrog?
Cov winemakers them nyiaj npaum li cas rau Russia-1 channel thiab tus kheej rau Mr. Kiselev rau zaj duab xis no, thiab lawv puas yuav them ntau dua rau, Kuv paub tseeb tias, tag nrho cov ntaub ntawv tshaj tawm no? Peb puas yuav tsum cia siab tias tom qab cov yeeb yaj kiab no hais txog cov khoom lag luam zoo Lavxias teb sab vodka thiab cov khoom siv hluav taws xob zoo hauv Lavxias teb sab, yog tias lub xeev cov channel muaj kev txhawj xeeb txog qhov teeb meem ntawm cov khoom cuav hauv khw muag cawv?
Tab sis qhov no tsis yog qhov tseem ceeb. Raws li kev saib xyuas ntawm kev saib xyuas ntawm qee cov qauv zoo hauv ntu nqaim ntawm kev ua lag luam cawv, lub tswv yim qub tau tshaj tawm tias kev siv cawv, zoo, ntawm chav kawm, ntawm cov khoom zoo thiab tsim tshwj xeeb los ntawm cov txiv hmab txiv ntoo, yog ib qho zoo heev. ib feem ntawm lub neej ntawm ib tug neeg ib txwm muaj. Thiab qhov no ua tiav raws li cov qauv kev tshaj tawm zoo tshaj plaws, qhov twg Dmitry Kiselev yog ib tus kws tshaj lij tshwj xeeb.
Ntawm no koj yog - thiab rov hais dua rau lub ntsiab lus ntawm Lavxias teb sab patriotism. Ntawm no - thiab cov duab ci ntawm cov hluas. Ntawm no - thiab lub tswv yim authoritative ntawm ib tug neeg txawv teb chaws. Ntawm no - thiab lub suab lus siab txog kev hlub.
Nyob rau hauv qhov tseeb, qhov no yog ib tug blatant propaganda ntawm wine haus. Crafty, deceitful, them nrog patriotic pathos, thiab yog li ntawd txawm ntau disgusting.
Thiab, los ntawm txoj kev, nws yog ib qho kev tu siab uas yav tas los tus kws kho mob ntawm Lavxias teb sab, ib tug yeej ntawm ib tug sober txoj kev ua neej, Gennady Grigorievich Onishchenko, kuj tau los ua ib tug koom nyob rau hauv no dej cawv project. Tej zaum nws tsis paub dab tsi no ode rau caw los ntawm Dmitry Kiselev yuav zoo li nyob rau hauv lub finish line. Nws tseem yuav tsum tau cia siab tias Onishchenko yuav qhia nws tus cwj pwm.
Tab sis cia peb kov ntawm qee qhov no ntawm lub teb chaws lub ntsiab winemaker.
Ua ntej, hais txog cawv - khoom noj khoom haus. Qhov tseeb, txawm tias cov menyuam kawm ntawv niaj hnub no, ntawm qhov tseeb OBZH cov lus qhia thiab qhov nrov dua "cov lus qhia txog kev noj qab haus huv", tau hais tias txhua yam khoom siv cawv, suav nrog cov cawv txiv hmab zoo, yog, ua ntej ntawm tag nrho cov, cov tshuaj aqueous ntawm cov tshuaj lom muaj zog, narcotic. khoom. 10-12% cawv tsis yog dag rau koj! Thiab qhov txawv li cas, raws li qhov tshwm sim ntawm dab tsi manipulations nrog cov khoom siv raw, cov cawv no, nws yog ethanol, nws kuj yog ethyl cawv, yog tsim. Kev puas tsuaj rau lub cev thiab tib neeg yuav raug tsim txom tsis ncaj ncees.
Qhov thib ob, cov lus hais tias kev noj qab haus huv raug kev txom nyem tsawg dua los ntawm qhov hu ua "zoo" cawv ntau dua li ntawm lwm cov cawv cawv tsis muaj dab tsi ntau tshaj li cov lus dab neeg uas nquag tshaj tawm los ntawm cov neeg tshaj tawm los ntawm kev lag luam cawv. Cov ntaub ntawv kho mob qhia lwm yam. Nws yog lub teb chaws uas muaj feem ntau, los ntawm hom, noj txiv hmab txiv ntoo, thiab cov no yog Fabkis, Ltalis, Portugal, Spain, uas yog cov thawj coj hauv kev tuag los ntawm daim siab mob siab.
Thiab qhov tseeb hais tias cawv yog, yog li hais, "ib khob - hauv ib khob", cov neeg laus tau hnov dua hauv lawv cov hluas, nyob rau hauv nruab nrab-60s ntawm lub xyoo pua xeem, thaum propaganda twb launched nyob rau hauv lub USSR, yog li hais lus., ntawm "mob thiab kab lis kev cai haus". Ces cov pearls suab ntawd, lawv hais tias, npias tsis yog cawv xwb, tab sis "kua mov". Yog, thiab hais txog "zoo" brandy thiab "zoo" vodka, yog tias koj coj lawv nrog cov khoom noj txom ncauj zoo, ntau cov lus zoo tau hais. Thiab dab tsi yog qhov tseem ceeb: cov kwj dej tiag tiag ntawm kev tshaj tawm dej cawv no tau nchuav rau hauv cov neeg tuaj saib hauv Soviet tsis yog los ntawm cov nplooj ntawv ntawm qee cov ntawv xov xwm thib ob lossis qis qis, tab sis los ntawm cov nplooj ntawv ntawm cov ntawv tshaj tawm Union.
Nws yog tseeb tias rau Mr. Kiselev thiab nws cov phooj ywg winemakers, qhov no tsuas yog kev lag luam xwb. Tab sis koj yeej tsis paub cov uas nws txoj kev lag luam raug tsim txom rau tib neeg thiab tib neeg? Vim li cas niaj hnub no muaj xws li ib tug do ib ncig ntawm wine?
Qhov tseeb yog vim li cas nyob rau hauv lub xeev tam sim no Lub tswv yim tsom rau txo qhov ntsuas ntawm cawv, tau pom zoo yuav luag 10 xyoo dhau los los ntawm tus Thawj Kav Tebchaws Vladimir Putin. Lub tswv yim tau tsim nyob rau hauv cov ntsiab lus ntawm kev sib cav sib ceg ntawm kev sib txawv hauv kev daws teeb meem ntawm cawv degeneration ntawm cov neeg Lavxias. Thiab thaum kawg, cov ntaub ntawv tsis yog devoid of contradictions.
Yog li, piv txwv li, thawj zaug txij li xyoo 1985 hauv ib lub xeev cov ntaub ntawv muaj kev lees paub tias kev ua siab dawb yog tus qauv ntawm lub neej, thiab cov tub ntxhais hluas yuav tsum tau tsim "lub peev xwm los tiv thaiv kev siv dej cawv." Ntawm qhov tod tes, nws tau txiav txim siab tias "kom tsim cov kab lis kev cai ntawm kev noj cov khoom siv cawv, nws yog ib qho tsim nyog los tsim cov xwm txheej rau kev loj hlob ntawm Lavxias teb sab winemaking thiab nce nyob rau hauv zus tau tej cov Lavxias teb sab wines zoo."
Qhov tseeb, vim qhov no ib qho taw qhia thiab tag nrho cov fuss. Tab sis qhov no yog ib lo lus tsis tseeb thiab tsim kev puas tsuaj! Tsis muaj "kev coj noj coj ua" ntawm kev haus cawv! Muaj cov txheej txheem ntawm yuav ua li cas txo qhov kev pheej hmoo ntawm kev haus cawv. Los ntawm txoj kev, tus thawj narcologist ntawm Ministry of Health Yevgeny Brun nco txog cov cai no txhua xyoo. Yog li tom qab tag nrho, koj tuaj yeem pom zoo txog kab lis kev cai ntawm kev noj cov tshuaj txwv tsis pub. Zoo li, tsis txhob hnov qab siv rab koob cais thiab lwm yam.
Wine alcoholizers muaj ib qho kev sib cav ntxiv hauv kev pom zoo ntawm cov xwm txheej tshwj xeeb rau cov cawv hauv tsev. Lawv hais tias nrog nws cov kev pab nws muaj peev xwm ua kom tiav lwm lub ntsiab lus ntawm lub xeev kev tiv thaiv dej cawv lub tswv yim, uas yog: nws yuav tso cai kom ua tiav, Kuv hais los ntawm Lub Tswv Yim: "Kev txo qis hauv qib ntawm kev haus dej cawv muaj zog hauv cov qauv. ntawm kev noj cov dej cawv nrog rau tag nrho qhov tseem ceeb txo qis hauv qib ntawm kev haus dej cawv. " Zoo li, cia peb hloov vodka nrog cawv.
Tab sis, qhov tseeb, kev sim hloov dej nrog npias hauv xyoo 2000 tau xaus nrog kev haus dej cawv ntau ntawm cov tub ntxhais hluas. Qhov tshwm sim ntawm qhov peb tseem tab tom sau. Qhov thib ob, kev txo qis hauv cov qauv ntawm kev haus cawv muaj zog tau ua tiav yam tsis muaj kev tsim cov kev nyiam rau npias lossis cawv. Cov kev paub ntawm kev siv txoj cai tiv thaiv dej cawv hauv tebchaws Poland, piv txwv li, thaum ntxov 2000s, qhia tau hais tias rau qhov no nws tsuas yog txaus kom nce nqi se rau tus ntsuj plig nrog kev ntsuas tsim nyog los ua kom cov bootleggers agility.
Ntawm cov ntsiab lus zoo, ib gram ntawm cawv, txawm nyob hauv npias, hauv cawv lossis hauv vodka, yuav tsum raug nqi tib yam, txij li tus neeg siv yeeb tshuaj cawv nyiam haus cawv, ua ntej ntawm tag nrho cov, nws muaj peev xwm coj tus neeg mus rau lub xeev ntawm intoxication.. Qhov chaw ntawm kev tsim khoom, xyoo ntawm kev tsim khoom thiab kev laus ntawm cov cawv - rau ib pab pawg nqaim ntawm aesthetes uas tau npaj txhij rau plhaub tawm nyiaj rau, zam txim rau kuv, show-off.
Nrog rau txoj kev no, ntawm tus nqi ntawm 50 rubles rau ib nrab ib liter ntawm 5-degree npias, vodka yuav tsum tsis raug nqi tam sim no yam tsawg kawg nkaus 200, tab sis tsawg kawg yog 400 rubles. Cov Poles daws qhov teeb meem no sai sai. Nyob rau hauv Russia, rau lub sijhawm no, lawv tsis tuaj yeem lossis tsis xav tau.
Yog li ntawd, tsuas yog me ntsis kev hloov pauv yuav tsum tau ua rau lub tswv yim tam sim no.
Tsis txhob flirting nrog domestic winemaking. Txhawm rau tsim cov xwm txheej zoo ib yam rau cov neeg tsim khoom ntawm txhua hom cawv cawv. Hloov cov kev muag khoom ntawm lawv cov khoom tsim kev puas tsuaj mus rau lub network tshwj xeeb, tshem tawm ntawm thaj chaw nyob thiab tsis tuaj yeem nkag mus rau cov tub ntxhais hluas.
Thiab tam sim no, ntawm qhov loj thiab kev tawm tsam, peb yuav tsum tau siv cov lus tshaj tawm tiag tiag ntawm kev ua neej tsis muaj cawv nyob hauv lub tebchaws. Tab sis nrog cov neeg tshaj tawm xws li Dmitry Kiselev, qhov no tsis zoo li yuav ua haujlwm.
Thiab thaum kawg ntawm qhov teeb meem no, ob peb lub siab xav thiab cov lus qhia.
Kuv xav tias nws yuav muaj txiaj ntsig zoo rau kev ua raws li cov lus qhia tam sim no ntawm winemakers thiab Dmitry Kiselev cov lus, sau npe rau lawv tias yog kev hem thawj ntawm cawv kua zaub ntsuab. Muaj ob qhov xwm txheej uas yuav tsum tau ceeb toom: Thawj Tswj Hwm Thawj Tswj Hwm thiab Ministry of Health. Qhov kawg, rau tam sim no, txuas ntxiv txwv qhov kev sim ntawm cov dej cawv thiab kev lag luam chaw tos txais uas tau txiav txim siab hauv cov haujlwm ntawm tsoomfwv txoj kev lag luam thaiv. Peb yuav tsum txhawb nqa peb cov phooj ywg.
Ntxiv cov yeeb yaj duab ntawm lub ncauj lus:
Hauv peb qhov kev txheeb xyuas ntawm cov yeeb yaj kiab thiab cov kev pabcuam nrov, peb niaj hnub txheeb xyuas cov khoom xws li "kev tshaj tawm cawv". Nws yog tsim nyog los nthuav tawm nws nyob rau hauv ntau nthuav dav, txij li thaum nyob rau hauv lub tam sim no qhov teeb meem nws yog ib qho ntawm cov lus qhia tseem ceeb ntawm kev tawm tsam rau cov neeg Lavxias.
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Lub Tsev Haujlwm Saib Xyuas Kev Noj Qab Haus Huv tau muag rau cov neeg tsim cov roj txiv ntoo
Nyob rau hauv Russia, qhov tshwm sim ntawm yuav luag txhua hom kab mob yog loj hlob. Tsoom fwv ntawm Lavxias teb sab Federation convinces peb hais tias qhov no yog ib tug thoob ntiaj teb sib txawv. Cov pej xeem lawv tus kheej yuav liam rau qhov no. Los ntawm cov ntxaij vab tshaus TV, Minister of Health Skvortsova V.I. convinces peb tias cawv, haus luam yeeb, thiab lwm yam yuav tsum liam rau qhov no, Malysheva xa txhua leej txhua tus mus rau tus kws kho mob. Yog li leej twg yuav liam rau qhov tseeb tias qhov xwm txheej ntawm cov kab mob plawv hauv Lavxias tau nce 85%, thiab cov kab mob oncological los ntawm 35%?
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Nyob rau hauv lub caij nplooj ntoos hlav, zoo nkauj thiab aromatic zaub, txiv hmab txiv ntoo thiab berries cia haunt ib tug tej zaum buyer. Lawv raug muag ntawm txhua lub ces kaum, khw muag khoom yog khoov los ntawm ntau cov khoom muag, thiab cov neeg muag khoom lag luam tau nquag hu rau cov neeg siv khoom kom sim "peach kua txiv." Tab sis tsis txhob hnov qab tias "zoo nkauj" tsis txhais hais tias muaj txiaj ntsig
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